Comments on: Domain trademark disputes http://www.predictivedomaining.com/2008/12/21/domain-trademark-disputes/ Finding the domain names of the future Sat, 03 Jul 2010 01:30:59 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: BuyBestDomains http://www.predictivedomaining.com/2008/12/21/domain-trademark-disputes/comment-page-1/#comment-11304 BuyBestDomains Wed, 24 Dec 2008 00:28:54 +0000 http://www.predictivedomaining.com/?p=530#comment-11304 If domain is so valuable, first talk to lawyer and do not leave the domain, even if you lose the domain, go to court! Example: Nissan.com If domain is so valuable, first talk to lawyer and do not leave the domain, even if you lose the domain, go to court!
Example: Nissan.com

]]> By: Barry http://www.predictivedomaining.com/2008/12/21/domain-trademark-disputes/comment-page-1/#comment-11219 Barry Tue, 23 Dec 2008 01:39:19 +0000 http://www.predictivedomaining.com/?p=530#comment-11219 Myzini, I agree that trademark holders are not always right and some marks are weak and can be challenged. I am not familiar enough with trademark law to confidently know the difference. I take a practical approach therefore. If the domain is valuable, I talk to a lawyer. If it is not, then I avoid the problem whenever I can by following the process I posted here. Sometimes it is easier to hand over a domain than to spend time and money fighting. That is for each person to decide. My point is to do the research to know what problems you might have and to document that you researched the domain before you bought it. Myzini,

I agree that trademark holders are not always right and some marks are weak and can be challenged. I am not familiar enough with trademark law to confidently know the difference. I take a practical approach therefore.
If the domain is valuable, I talk to a lawyer. If it is not, then I avoid the problem whenever I can by following the process I posted here.
Sometimes it is easier to hand over a domain than to spend time and money fighting. That is for each person to decide.
My point is to do the research to know what problems you might have and to document that you researched the domain before you bought it.

]]> By: myzini http://www.predictivedomaining.com/2008/12/21/domain-trademark-disputes/comment-page-1/#comment-11197 myzini Mon, 22 Dec 2008 19:59:06 +0000 http://www.predictivedomaining.com/?p=530#comment-11197 Bonsoir, j'ai lu avec attention votre article sur les différends avec les marques. A ce propos j'ai observé que de temps à autres les demandes de titulaires de droits antérieurs et notamment de marques vis à vis de domainers ne sont pas toujours justifiées. En effet il arrive que les marques cités soient des marques faibles. Les domainers n'ayant pas la connaissances suffisantes pour reconnaître les faiblesses d'une marque enregistrée se trouvent sans défense vis à vis du titulaire. Bien sur il peut faire appel à un juriste, mais dans bien des cas il préfère cédé le nom de domaine. j'ai à plusieurs reprises essayé d'expliquer ce point de vu à des domaineurs français sans avoir eu l'impression d'être compris de leurs parts. En conclusion les marques antérieurs ont des droits, oui, mais pas au delà de la protection acquise pour les produits et services désignés et à condition que la marque ne soit pas descriptive de ces produits et services. Bonsoir,
j’ai lu avec attention votre article sur les différends avec les marques. A ce propos j’ai observé que de temps à autres les demandes de titulaires de droits antérieurs et notamment de marques vis à vis de domainers ne sont pas toujours justifiées. En effet il arrive que les marques cités soient des marques faibles. Les domainers n’ayant pas la connaissances suffisantes pour reconnaître les faiblesses d’une marque enregistrée se trouvent sans défense vis à vis du titulaire. Bien sur il peut faire appel à un juriste, mais dans bien des cas il préfère cédé le nom de domaine.
j’ai à plusieurs reprises essayé d’expliquer ce point de vu à des domaineurs français sans avoir eu l’impression d’être compris de leurs parts.
En conclusion les marques antérieurs ont des droits, oui, mais pas au delà de la protection acquise pour les produits et services désignés et à condition que la marque ne soit pas descriptive de ces produits et services.

]]> By: Barry http://www.predictivedomaining.com/2008/12/21/domain-trademark-disputes/comment-page-1/#comment-11178 Barry Mon, 22 Dec 2008 16:32:22 +0000 http://www.predictivedomaining.com/?p=530#comment-11178 Marc, great points. I can't believe I forgot to mention "keeping records". Thanks for catching that. Marc, great points. I can’t believe I forgot to mention “keeping records”. Thanks for catching that.

]]> By: Marc J. Randazza http://www.predictivedomaining.com/2008/12/21/domain-trademark-disputes/comment-page-1/#comment-11174 Marc J. Randazza Mon, 22 Dec 2008 15:15:12 +0000 http://www.predictivedomaining.com/?p=530#comment-11174 If I may offer one little bit of additional advice to your readers: Keep records that you took each of the steps in this post. Those records will be of tremendous value in any UDRP defense. "Willful Blindness" has been held to constitute "bad faith" in UDRP proceedings, but documented proof that you took the steps that he suggests will go a long way toward defeating any claims of willful blindness. If I may offer one little bit of additional advice to your readers: Keep records that you took each of the steps in this post.

Those records will be of tremendous value in any UDRP defense. “Willful Blindness” has been held to constitute “bad faith” in UDRP proceedings, but documented proof that you took the steps that he suggests will go a long way toward defeating any claims of willful blindness.

]]> By: Barry http://www.predictivedomaining.com/2008/12/21/domain-trademark-disputes/comment-page-1/#comment-11165 Barry Mon, 22 Dec 2008 12:11:11 +0000 http://www.predictivedomaining.com/?p=530#comment-11165 Appreciate the comment, Marc. I have worked with patent attorneys for many years as a scientist so hopefully some of it has rubbed off. Appreciate the comment, Marc. I have worked with patent attorneys for many years as a scientist so hopefully some of it has rubbed off.

]]> By: Due Diligence For Domainers « The Legal Satyricon http://www.predictivedomaining.com/2008/12/21/domain-trademark-disputes/comment-page-1/#comment-11164 Due Diligence For Domainers « The Legal Satyricon Mon, 22 Dec 2008 12:05:24 +0000 http://www.predictivedomaining.com/?p=530#comment-11164 [...] Diligence For Domainers Barry Goggin admits that he isn’t a lawyer. Nevertheless, his post at Predictive Domaining discussing domaining due diligence should be on every domainer’s desk. Simple due diligence before buying a domain will help [...] [...] Diligence For Domainers Barry Goggin admits that he isn’t a lawyer. Nevertheless, his post at Predictive Domaining discussing domaining due diligence should be on every domainer’s desk. Simple due diligence before buying a domain will help [...]

]]> By: Marc J. Randazza http://www.predictivedomaining.com/2008/12/21/domain-trademark-disputes/comment-page-1/#comment-11160 Marc J. Randazza Mon, 22 Dec 2008 11:54:43 +0000 http://www.predictivedomaining.com/?p=530#comment-11160 You may not be a lawyer, but I am. In my opinion, this is some of the best advice I've seen on a domaining site. Bravo. You may not be a lawyer, but I am. In my opinion, this is some of the best advice I’ve seen on a domaining site. Bravo.

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